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  1. #11
    azeroth
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    i believe i am pull the 28 and drop in a 21 into my gtp2 as i gave 1 new in box i bought for a buggy that i was gonna run with a local club but that is another story. I am figuring ok i may loose some exit punch and straight away speed but it should make it smoother and easier to drive easier on tires and fuel and with my long layoff from rc racing and lack of wheel time i think this should help. It's better to get it around the track than be blasting the boards

  2. #12
    azeroth
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    really guys? nothing?

  3. #13
    You're not going to like my thoughts, any more than people did in the past. I gave up posting them, but I can point you to the write-ups if you're interested.

    It doesn't matter which engine you put in the car - the control of the engine is in YOUR hands. If you read Art Carbonell's articles on how to be smooth, that's the single biggest things, using all the trigger positions between no throttle and full throttle. Nothing you do to the gear is going to make you smoother. Being smooth is all in how you move your trigger finger, and for that matter the steering as well.

    As to which engine you get, 28 or 21, you can get engines that are easier or harder to control, along with the appropriate exhausts. It has always been that way, and always will. Take a real pro, put a .15 in his car, and he'll still do well. It all comes down to driving ability, meaning practice, meaning learning how to be smooth. The hardware has very little to do with it.
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  4. #14
    azeroth
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    mike i agree with all those things smoother faster be the the turtle not the hare <G> but trying to find a base line set ups and gearing or a base line to start with as to not wreck a bunch of parts and other peoples parts from being in wrong place at wrong time is worth the effort i picked up a gtp2 e and installed a tekin rx8 with 2650 combo on 4s lipo to help retrain rusty trigger finger and work on setups being alittle more forgiving and only needing to be 1 man to run a decent period of time on some smooth and not so smooth untreated and some sealed lots in the area. yes i understand my nitro gtp will be a little different setup wise but still gives me the chance to figure what changes do what but it also helps when you start with something that others may be running that works or if there is the one odd part you may need to be able to purchase or borrow from a competitor to finish the day of racing.
    has it changed that much? 30 years ago i went to a event my equipment went missing from my rental car and guys i had raced with that where there helped scrounge enough parts pieces and equipment for me to slip a car and electrics together and run and for that i was truly grateful maybe it is just me that info should be alittle more forth coming and easier to get out of fellow racers it's toy cars i have lost events in my past 1:1 racing by helping a competitors get there broken rides back together on saturday night so they could run on sunday, for competition and comraderie. but that is part of the game and you hope it comes back around and it usually does. am i wrong in my thinking?

    Sorry for the rant it is just my opinion and not aimed at you or anyone in particular this is supposed to be for fun and fellowship

  5. #15
    I don't see it as a "rant", and what you describe was very typical of racing many years ago, when everyone seemed to be helping everyone else. I don't know if it's still that way today.

    As I recall, everything was enjoyable until $$$ got involved; when people raced for trophies, it was everyone helping everyone, but when it was for $$$ all the sportsmanship went out the window.

    It sounds like you know exactly what YOU have to do, which is by far the biggest part of it. When it comes to which equipment might be better for a particular type of racing, I think you've got a lot more people to choose from on RC Tech. The problem on SGRID was that back when we had the real experts here helping others out, too many people who didn't know very much wanted to argue with them, so the best people with the best information pretty much backed off from forums.

    I don't know about off-road, but I do know that if you were to ask two-time World Champion Art Carbonell about which car to run in on-road racing, he'd say something like all the new cars are competitive with each other - it's how you set the car up, and how you drive it that counts.



    My impression of things over the past few years has been that the .21 engines have gone up in quality and capability right along with the increase in price, and "you get what you pay for". I don't remember seeing the larger size engines being designed with the sake level of skill, for competition.

    When it comes to car setup, have you checked with the car manufacturer's website for suggested setups? They may not be perfect for your driving style, but they might be a very good starting point.

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    When I read your post, I think of you who has a LOT that they can contribute to these discussions. The things that you've already learned will help people far more than comparing two different brands of some product, to see which is "better". You think of it as "rant", but I see it as "informative". I hope you continue posting here - write up what you were just trying to say as a one-page article, and I'll bump it up into a vBulletin article on the front page!
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  6. #16
    azeroth
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    the posts will come the exchange of ideas and information is vital if this is to continue to grow i am also a firm believer that the latest wizz bang parts are not always the best way to go tried and true pieces will always work and do the job. i currently have a BMI TC3 setup for usgt that i have been having a gas with on carpet this winter and being competative it is the first E touring car i have ever had having a 1/12 and 1/8 scale pan background i had 1/8 scale marker pan chassis i ran for years wish i still had it. i was out of racing when rc12I had just been released along with the rc300 i raced chassis like MRP, Cobra, delta Phazer and super Phazer with nicads this is all sorta new to me I currently have been running with a local club in a classic 1/12 class i have been enjoying alot running silvercans and nimhs and we are talking about going to 10 min mains with them and having quite a hoot doing it but nitro has always called, yes i do have a couple of NTC3's out dated antiques on the national level oh yes but i am gonna run them too why not that is why i have them. to PLAY with and to have fun when was the last time anybody you know has run a sealed parking lot on foams with out doping tires or spraying traction compound and weaved the parking slots just to practice probable not to many, i generally will setup for 15-20 slots and see how many full laps i can get to a tank your talkin 30-40 180 degree turns per lap without crossing lines and spinning out (or at least trying) it will teach you patience at the very least<G> setup and throttle control you maybe racing yourself but that is in any form of racing, racing yourself minimizing your mistakes making those clean laps time after time yes i tried to run offroad for a season as it was 10 minutes from the house so why not. but with me i have found anytime something is flying threw the air it usually gets broke so back to onroad i go.

  7. #17
    In a previous lifetime, I used to spend my lunch hour many days driving a few blocks from where I worked to a dusty, dirty parking lot, and practicing how to get around it. My racer friends told me I was just wasting my time, as real tracks have better traction, but I found that the reflexes you learn when you've got no traction are pretty useful in real racing as well.

    You reminded me of something else I used to do. My old radio had the ability to "beep" at a set interval. If I was turning 10 second laps, I would set the interval to 10. I would then pay attention to where my car was on the track when I heard the <beep>. Anything I could do to increase the distance my car traveled before the <beep> was good, and vice versa too. It didn't help me when driving in traffic, but it certainly helped show me what a better line could do to improve on my lap times.

    Back in the dark ages, I learned another trick as well - find some other car on the track, and follow it at a set distance, not getting any closer or further away - don't try to pass, just use the experience to get better at driving in traffic.



    Just like in photography, what's most important in learning how to control your car with an R/C radio is what's in the twelve or so inches BEHIND the radio, not what's in front. Even then, every so often, with a car that I really felt comfortable driving, I could almost put my head "into" the car, as it went around the track. There was no more thinking about what to do with the radio, for all practical purposes I was literally "inside" the car, and reacting to what the car was doing almost as if I could feel it. I think the really good racers do this without giving it a moment's thought. They just "do", and the car behaves as it ought to.

    You know, I think you would also enjoy reading some of what's posted in the History Forum here. There's a lot of very talented people who have talked about their own experiences in R/C, and what made them better at it.
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  8. #18
    azeroth
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    i have read most all of the history items here there are a few left to read some nice stuff in there.

  9. #19
    Hopefully there will be a lot more yet to come - I've got a large collection of ancient photos donated to me by Lou Przybyla - will try to get those up in the next month or so.

    I wish I could get more people to jump in and start posting their stories!!
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  10. #20
    azeroth
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    it would be nice to see some more involvement with this site

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